Chiyanov Viktor Fedorovich - your psychotherapist

Hello, dear viewers! Today we are at the studio in Khreschatyk, 26 , I am Anastasia Bohdanovska, and
this is the programme ‘36,6’. I am really interested in the fact how long the mankind has been suffering
from stuttering, how many theories and hypotheses there were , how many doctors have devoted their
lives to fighting stuttering. No one can answer these questions, and the process of learning stuttering goes
on. On all the continents scientists look for the roots of this disease. So today we and our specialists talk
about stuttering. Please, Victor Tchianov, doctor-psychotherapist, and Oleg Sukhomlin, doctor -phoniatr.
-When do you think it is necessary to turn to a doctor with a child?
-I think by the age of 2,5 years there should be simple sentences. If no, this is called speech retardation.
Oleg:
-If you’re asking whether you should worry or not, let me remind you that Einstein didn’t talk until 3
years old and then he became Einstein.
-Do you know whether hard childbirth influences the development of a child?
Victor
- I think it depends on whether childbirth was hard for the mother or for the child. If there was asphyxia, it
of course influences the development of a child.
-What is asphyxia?
-It is lack of oxygen for a child and for some mother’s organs and systems.
-Which diseases do phoniatrs meet the most often?
- There are dysartria, stuttering, cerebral palsy and stuttering combined, cereabral
palsy+stuttering+psychological problems. Some people believe no one can help them and they don’t go to
doctors. Like with a hard form of cerebral palsy combined with speech disorders.
-I think it’s very important to know how to talk to a child before 1 y.o. right.
We are used to be very tender with children and we spoil words. For instance, „bow wow’ instead of ‘a
dog’. Can this spoil a child’s speech?
- When a child is small, it studies the world . So we should speak right in order for him to speak right,
otherwise he will talk with mistakes. We know there are several phases of a child’s speech development –
a phase of cry, a phase of babble, then a phase of separate syllables, and then a phase of more complicated
words. Then there is a phase of simple sentences, and then there is a phase of fluency until 5 y.o. Abstract
speech is formed until 10 y.o.
-When we want to sound more tender, we ‘swallow’ some vowels. Can a child memorize this?
-Yes, that’s why you should always speak right.
-There are many families in which children start learning foreign languages since 2 years old. How do you
think, does this trend overload a child’s brain?
- I think it doesn’t overload the brain. For instance, my child has started learning English at the age of 4.
But there is no pressure, it was like a game.
Moreover, some scientists say that a child can understand speech even before birth, so that is why
pregnant women can listen to music an foreign languages.
-It is all very interesting, we will return to this topic after we have listened to our viewer.
- Hello. My nephew has a motor-sensory alalia and no one can help him. We have been thinking of
dolphin therapy.
-What do you think about dolphin therapy, Victor?
-Well, it can be good emotionally but it doesn’t change a person’s state radically.
-Oleg, what do you think?
-I think it is necessary for a child to study foreign languages from an early age. Speaking about brain
overload, I can say that if a child is interested in studying a language, this will not be tiring.
And turning to the phone call we had now, I think parents should make an investigation of a child to find
out what is happening.
-What is stuttering ? Is it a disease or a speech disorder?

- It is a disease in a form of a speech disorder. I was stuttering myself, I was frightened at the age 6, and
then until I was 17. I was suffering myself, so I know how to help patients, we’re on the same wave.
There are some people who have almost or completely got rid of stuttering on their own. However, this is
a rare thing. Therefore, I recommend them to address a specialist.
-I also think you should turn to a specialist. He knows how to help you.
-What is the genesis of stuttering?
-Stuttering appears when a child starts using phrases (at the age of 2 approximately).
-Is stuttering transferred genetically?
-Yes, there are such families where people stutter from generation to generation.
-Oleg, what would you add?
-I think everything said before is right, but I would like to say that children are sensitive to aggression and
destruction, so if they have something like that at home, they could start stuttering.
I think all the content containing destruction is harmful for a child and should be forbidden until the age
of 7 years.
-I think this is why specialists recommend pregnant women to watch good films and listen to pleasant
music.
- Yes, there is a concept ‘innate nervousness’, which appears when a mother goes through stress during
pregnancy. Let’s listen to a question of our viewer who will get this wonderful free book shows a book
- Hello, I have two acquaintances of young age who suffer from stuttering. They are very promising but
they worry about it. As you said, this is non-commercial programme.
-Do you think there is a time when it’s late to turn to a specialist?
- My experience tells me I can heal people from 2 to 50 years old. I had a call from a lady who was 70 – I
couldn’t help her. I think I could help people of 60-65 years old. It all depends on the willingness of a
patient to heal, also he should be active and should trust the doctor.
-Oleg, what do you think?
- I had a case with a lady who was 60, and she was still giving lectures. She was very motivated for a
treatment, and she was quite successful.
-How do we correct stuttering, what should be the first step ? Should it be a neuropathologist, a
psychologist or a speech specialist?
-I think not any of them can help in such a situation. People would come to me and there were no results.
 

Tell me, what led you to Dr. Chiyanov?

"I just stutter a lot and we decided to come here.
- Why did you decide to come here?
- Because we already tried there, went to the grandmother, but it did not help. We decided to come here.
- And what was the reason for your stuttering, where did it come from?
- Well, from fears. When I was very worried, I stutter very much.
- When did they start to stutter?
- From 5-6 years
- Tell me. when did you feel the results, when did you feel relieved?
- After 3 days, so five sessions.
What do you do?
"I go to school.
- Tell me how they reacted
classmates on changes in you?
- Normally, that is well, that I spoke with them, spoke well today.
- When the course of treatment has ended, how do you feel, can you speak normally, calmly? Although we actually see that you are normal, calmly talking?
- Yes, I speak normally. I feel very good.
Do you like to sing?
Yes!

- Let's sing something!
- My baby, I miss you, I don't get a letter from you,
You're far away and you don't even get bored, But I'll be back and you'll know...
- Wonderful! Tell me the last question, how did you feel during the session which

did you have feelings when the doctor worked with you?
- It was easy for me to talk and pleasant, there was a good feeling.
- Did you feel warm and kind?
- Yes, warm Yes, I feel more confident before answers
- Well, today you can go to the board without embarrassment and answer to the whole class?
- Yes.
- Of course, filming is quite an exciting business, it confuses you a little, but still I would like you to finally show us something from your homework in order to really convince our viewers of the strength of Dr. Chayanov.
Why not?

- Well, try, try, try...
- Oh, the viburnum blooms in the field by the stream, I fell in love with the young guy, I fell in love with my misfortune, I can't open up, I won't find words...
- Say, shrugged

- Yes, of course, we studied with speech therapists, with these folk healers, and the children obviously come from this, which we observe.
- Among your patients, the percentage of childhood stuttering is very high. Why does it arise?

- The only, most important thing is stuttering

occurs in childhood, when the center of speech in the nervous system is formed. Stresses, various experiences, and if this happens, then there is a breakdown in the formation of speech, precisely when it has not yet settled down. It is easily susceptible to changes, in particular pathological, and most often stuttering occurs at the age of 3-45 years. And in the future, stuttering develops, it becomes, in addition to speech disorders, various psychological complexes, neuroses are connected, which already burden the course of stuttering itself, so both neurosis and stuttering have to be treated.

- Why do they say that in this case a speech therapist cannot always help?
- Speech therapist does not know the methods of psychological influence.

here matters most.
That is, I also use certain speech therapy techniques, but they seem to be in the background in the complex.
- Yes, maybe due to the fact that you have a very homely environment, maybe due to the fact that you do not wear a dressing gown during the reception of patients, during the treatment process?

Maybe that's why the children love you, they are friends with you?
- But still, stuttering can be treated only in childhood?
- In general, I will say, so I once stuttered myself in childhood, and for many years I myself had to deal with this, this difficulty of speech, and I know that it is from the inside, I myself felt it, I know what the person who comes to me feels, so maybe I am better than others doing this.

- Because the person who survived better understands the condition of another patient, so the methods are just built on such a deep penetration into the mental state of a person, here you need contact, trust, here, and on the basis of this already goes itself

equally stuttering, what should he do?
- So, stuttering can be treated in principle at any age.
I say, convenient for a doctor, a doctor is easier with a contingent, if age, a child comes at 4, at 5 years old, this does not mean that he cannot be treated, he can also be treated, it is much more difficult everything passes.

- Or, let's say, the age is later, there are also problems there, but, nevertheless, I had forty-year-old people who were recovering, I had kidneys very sick, my right kidney was very sick, my side was very sick, there was a very high pressure, 220 190, it is now normalized.

- Tell me,
why did you decide to come to Viktor Fedorovich?
- I was at Kashpirovsky's, and decided to come here again.
- Well, why did you come here after them, wasn't there a result after them?
- There was no result.
- You came here, and how, and how now?
- I have no pain in my right side, I don't feel pain at all and this pressure has returned to normal.

If we start to affect the nervous system and not only the nervous system, but in such a way as to shift the focus, pay attention to the nervous system to the diseased organ, then it begins to control it better.
That is, here I act as such a tuner, that is, I tune the work of the body in such a way that it copes with the disease.
- What diseases do they come to you with?
-
Here are diseases and angina, cardiac, people come with various types of arrhythmias, here with gastrointestinal diseases, here we say that there may be nervous stress, even an ulcer may form as a result of some kind of severe stress, a person, a young person can suffer a severe heart attack as a result of stress, for example, prolonged depression or some kind of long-term nervous state can lead to oncological pathology.
Often we note this, and here I had such patients who themselves confirm that for, say, several months he did not come out of the depressive

And here a long stressful stress state leads to the fact that this breaks through the weak point, and there is either a tumor, or an ulcer, or some other pathology. To prevent the disease, then

there is to get rid of depression, for example, or from some kind of nervous tension or relieve stress. I believe that in principle, every person who feels healthy for now, here, but leads an active lifestyle, and now life is like this, that you can't behave differently, you have to work, there are people, which as a result are engaged in business, not sleeping there, for 5 hours five hours a day, four, overstrain, there are some unrest and stressful situations, which means naturally, he is healthy, he tolerates, but it can accumulate and in a year or two fall on

him, this or that pathology may arise.
Therefore, in principle, any person who, in principle, protects his health, he should just come at least once a year and relax like this, take off that psychological burden, which

which has accumulated and cannot even be brought to the onset of the disease.
Because when the disease has already arisen, it is much more difficult for a person to recover, and many go into a chronic state.
I know that during the session, among other things, you still read your poems.
Very much

unusual for a physician.
Is there anything from your work for our viewers, at least a little?
Well, I'll explain to you why I read poetry.
That is, I have been writing poetry for several years, maybe I started reading them late, writing as a student when I was, but now they are some special poems, and now I work.