Chiyanov Viktor Fedorovich - your psychotherapist

Welcome to the program "New Day." I am a doctor, psychotherapist, Chiyanov Viktor Fedorovich. We have a doctor-obstetrician-gynecologist Izbash Oleg Ivanovich and his son Nikita.
The topic of our transmission is the treatment of bronchial asthma. In this regard, I will ask some questions to my guests. They'll answer them.
And we're going to see how the asthma is going through my psychotherapeutic technique. It's very important to say in the first minutes that in recent years, it's very rare for me to have asthma patients. I don't even know why.
She treats well enough though. So, Oleg Ivanovich, I have a question. Please tell me how your baby started getting sick? What age is it? It started enough in early age.
Somewhere before he was two years old. And first, I see, as always, these were bouts of difficult breathing, which in things were interpreted as bronchitis with an asthmatic component, bronchitis with an allergic component, and so on. But these attacks are pretty early in
When he was two years old, they became so sharp that they had to bring him to intensive care, in a state when his lips were blue, they could not breathe at all.
So, obviously, in intensive care, this is already a fight for the life of a child and a person. That is, there were hormones going on, ilphyine, various other drugs that people do not always take in everyday life. And literally in some one or two days he was doing really well.
He was running in intensive care and we were already driven home. So, hormonal therapy literally immediately took off these attacks. Some time later, I noticed that the allergic component was really present in this moment, we had a cat.

And that in the presence of the cat, these attacks intensified when he went for a walk for two or three days. It was more or less normal, only the cat returned - immediately into a state and worsened. By removing the cat, we reduced, say, the frequency of these attacks, but you know how much we reduced.
That is, once a month it was iron. Here, yes, such a serious condition. And eventually, bronchial asthma was diagnosed.
It was confirmed by those existing methods. That is, it is no longer bronchitis with an allergic component. There was natural bronchial asthma, with which we began to fight.
Tell me, what methods have you tried to treat asthma? Today, official medicine, we have evidence-based medicine. There are protocols for the treatment of bronchial asthma. Protocols for the treatment of official bronchial asthma are reduced to establishing control over the attacks of bronchial asthma, so that they do not occur.
That is, drugs are taken. That is, in the acute case, yes, the child is prescribed hormones for one, two, three days. And as soon as the child's condition stabilizes that he can be at home, should not be in the hospital, drugs are prescribed, in fact, for life, one might say.
There, well, selective blockers that affect the bronchial receptors, so that spasms do not occur, which could happen, frankly, for any reason. That is, allergies are not only to the cat's epidermis, and so on. By the way, we did analyzes, checked and, indeed, according to the analyzes, this is a pale tick, which, in general, can be everywhere... Well, he was still allergic to something other than animals, something else? Yes, mold, dust mite, animals, cats, mice, by the way, too.
This, as we found out later, is even worse than a cat. That is, these were moments that could give an acute state of impetus, a sharp attack. And those drugs that he took constantly, 
to be honest, if they led to the fact that there could be no acute attacks, such that he did not breathe at all, his lips would turn blue, and we went to the hospital.
But still, these whistles at night, when he sometimes could not sleep, and when he slept, we just woke up sometimes from quiet sounds.. You mean, if during the day he breathed himself even more or less, then at night... Yes, as usual, at night it all intensified, even if he slept, in a dream that's all. Did you hear it all? We heard whooping, whistling and so on. In the morning he has to wake up, go to school there.
Of course, there is about actively running, jumping or doing something like that, no matter how it could go, on the contrary, the recommendation is there. Well, tell me again, how is it that he has been ill for a long time? Well, consider, if rude from the age of two, because before there were bronchitis, from two years to twelve, that is, ten years, we constantly struggled with these diseases. Okay, how did you manage, how did you find me, how did you find out, because...
Look, we fought these diseases not only there with the help of drugs, because life with bronchial asthma, it implies from the point of view of official medicine, a certain, that is, the absence of first pillows in the apartment, the absence of any allergens, the fight against dust, there are aerosols that need to spray surfaces on which dust can settle, bed linen, and so on.
The diet is more or less rigid, not containing those foods that cause allergies. And I tried as much as possible to take less medication, to find some ways as much as possible so that I noticed that the child, when he is nervous, when he is restless, he began to transition, naturally, by the age of 12, I noticed that when he gets nervous, for some reason, then he has these attacks for any reason, yes, it can be in the family, some inconsistencies, that something to me

liked what the parents said, or some problems at school. And if he gets nervous, I noticed that his breathing was getting worse, and I understood that bronchial asthma has some kind of psychosomatic component, began, thought that it was necessary not to find, let's say, some kind of psychotherapist, who would work with him in terms of, well, his mental state, yes, to help calm down and so on, this transition period so that he reacts sharply and sharply in the world, and just on the Internet, in Google I typed bronchial psychotherapy there, prebronchial asthma, and here of the many sites, to me, your honest, even outwardly liked it more, well, read it, it was written so thoughtfully, very sensible, and I just decided to call you from this call.

There we met and began to heal. Yes. Good.

his means that I am interested in how you, from the point of view of your father, well, a doctor, one might say, assess the very process of starting treatment and continuing it, here is your impression. Therefore, my impressions, that is, now, of course, I have a different attitude to this, having received some result that surprises me so far, here. Well, then I was just interested, that is, we agreed, that we would come there for some half-hour, half-hour consultation because I, as a doctor, read what you write, well, I had some kind of doubt, yes, and decided to just look, what kind of doctor for you to tell me more about how you do it, what methodology, etc., having come to the consultation, you explained in detail there, what and how you do, and did a little, say, experiment, literally within a few minutes we are in a state of hypnosis, well, standing, so, approached him, led a state of hypnosis, and, I understand that they uttered those phrases that could calm him down, and those phrases that 
that it should be easier for him, it should be easier for him, with breathing, yes, breathing should be smooth, calm, without tension, and so on.

Here, I listened to all this, you asked if it was easier for him to breathe, there after graduation he said easier, we talked to you, I learned what and how, let's say, well, how the treatment should go, if we agree, and we left, yes, and go outside, my child tells me, and you know, dad, I'm tired so easier to breathe, that I can even run, even if you want right now, I will run, you know, but it was already autumn, and like... That's how I missed the movement, I missed it like that, and it really pushed me so that, in the end, I saw that it was easier for him, really, of course, these wheezing persisted, he says, I can, then he wheezed, but I can... Well, already an improvement in feelings, yes, here, I saw it, and I decided that we would try, here, and when the sessions themselves took place, I was present at all, well, it was a calm, such a relaxing environment, 
I loved it, and, you know, how interested you were after all when these attacks appear, yes, that is, we found out that there, for example, there was a problem with cats, and when somewhere there, after several sessions, you brought your cat like this, here, 10 kilogram minimum fluffy put my child on the chest, and he spent the polsians with this cat put it, well, in a state of hypnosis, yes, he put it there and held it in his arms, and then we went out, and nothing happened, that is, no increase in wheezing, no exacerbation of bronchial asthma. I probably haven't stroked cats for a long time, right? For a long time, you know, he kept telling me: "Dad, how many years can I not pet cats?"
Well, you know, how much I missed it for communicating with animals, a child, people, animals, now we have a small dog, there are cats at home, but not that we do not risk somehow until we take root, right? If someone already has one animal yes, there is one animal here, and how is this calm in these sessions, the child always went out and said that he was better, because we had already come to a state of exacerbation in general, yes, and with each session was better, better, better and, that is, I saw this result, it suited me, calmed me down, I understood that we were, as it were, doing something good, but I did not expect even what we were. Here, tell me, how long has it been since the end of treatment? Well, a little less than 5 months so, and how did he feel in these 5 months? He felt good, that is, his condition improved even more, that is, it improved to the point that the child is sleeping at night, I come, put my ear on, I listen, I don't hear wheezing, because I even used to be because before even the state when there was, as it were, remission, at least some wheezing was still that is, at night it was heard when silence, everyone was sleeping, we heard it, that is, at present there are no such wheezes at all, and well, this is the case with the disease. Tell us in more detail what kind of disease he had and what is so now? At the moment when here recently it was about about, that is, at the beginning of February in early February, many of our younger child, me and my wife, that is, everyone got sick with the flu, the flu was so severe - 39 the temperature is lower than 38 and 5 on our own, if it became worse for the child, we, of course, usually gave antipyretic drugs earlier, if there was at least some ARVI, for example, in a child, then bronchial asthma naturally worsened, it was immediately clear and visible how the inhalers would intensify therapy, inhaled these drugs were immediately connected in this situation, despite such a severe course, there were no similar attacks. Tell me, was there a complication? Yes, I have already told because there was a complication, as a result it was also associated with severe hypothermia against the background of influenza, but still the condition was serious, I had to give antibiotics. He took antibiotics very quickly, literally on the third day he was already running taking further drugs, he was already running, but, we say, it was really asthma attack was really asthma, of course, good. Nikita, dad told very hard how he, as a doctor, how your own father perceived your illness, treatment, and I wonder how you perceived our first meeting and subsequent sessions perceived how you felt and how you felt and did you have any improvements, results? 
When we first came to a trial session with you, you performed hypnosis, and after hypnosis I really felt very good, it was easy to breathe and I felt how it became easier and easier for me, and now, when we started going to your sessions with each session, it became easier and easier for me. Easier what? It was easier to breathe, there were no attacks, I could already stroke cats, sleep on feather pillows and run what I wanted for a very long time. That is, in life you are such an active person, you love sports, did the disease hold you back in these directions? Yes, here I am, I was not allowed to run, I sat on the bench, watched how other children run, play football, and I could not do this, I envied very much, but after the sessions it became easier for me, I already played football, ran, and it became easier for me, I could eat everything, cats to stroke, and what could you already eat? Well, in principle, something before, something did not eat and now you can already eat well drink? For example, I could not have different juices. And what happened if you drank juices? Well, I became gradually in just sitting and even sitting it was hard for me to breathe, very hard until I took certain drugs there, but after your sessions I was able to, well, already drink juice, I didn't get so bad, I was already sleeping normally and how this friend suffered the disease, for no reason everything was fine and the flu is so well, it was unexpected, that is, I took his active lives and then I get sick, while sharply, and now I do not like to get sick, honestly, but I had such a temperature that when I got up, I walked a meter, I became very bad, well, not very bad, but it was bad to breathe and dizzy, then we called the doctor and we found, that I have pneumonia and a temperature below 38 and 5 did not drop and, well, my parents gave me medicine, but antipyretic, well, you can more precisely, compare here before also sick with some kind of colds, and here also pneumonia. There were serious conditions, this condition was different, that is, with such a severe flu, and here before, when there were those colds, that's when I was it was generally very bad for me to breathe, I wheezed, I didn't even lie down already and sat down, because I couldn't lie down, but after your sessions I got pneumonia and it wasn't so bad for me to breathe like that, it was just a little bad to breathe, but not so much and, well, of course, I felt the difference. How are you feeling now? I feel very good, well, I'm running with friends now, I'm already playing football with my brother and I go to football lessons, we just made football at school instead of physical education, well, already like that, it will even be professional, let's say, you are doing, just running, right? And every time we play football, that is, it turns out, life and pleasure, but how, are there attacks? No, in general, I think that it will never be good.

Now I will dictate my phone number for those who, if they want to contact me, consult, pleas  063 735 52 48 my phone number +38 063 735 52 48. So, we settled on one of the diseases that can be treated effectively using psychotherapeutic techniques. The technique that I use has been used for a very long time - well, for probably 35 years - that's for sure, and if you look into the history of the development of this method, then the first patients were both adults and children, especially children are impressive, because they are well, more defenseless, say, than adults, they are more fragile and therefore see when the child in front of you suffocates - it is very unpleasant, it is alarming as a doctor, I'm not talking about parents who are experiencing the greatest stress and anxiety about the health and, one might say, the life of their child.

In this case, returning to the case of Nikita, I just think that even Nikita just walks under God, because if this pneumonia developed against the background of existing asthma, there would be very big problems and a big risk to life in general, because I saw these attacks that he had severe, he can't breathe anyway, and then we have the inflammatory process of the lungs, which further narrows the possibilities of obtaining air, oxygen for the body, and the situation would be very difficult due to the fact that that he had already completed the course, his body got rid of the disease, he and physically strengthened, but the virus affects any healthy person, no matter how healthy he is and this, as we were told, in Ukraine there was a special virus with which we did not meet, and often its complications were precisely lung lesions, and even there were deaths.

In this case, everything worked out. God grant that there are no such states, here is the first case, I am one of the first cases in asthma, I remember there was a girl somewhere 4-5 years old, she was allergic to 35 foods, in fact, she did not eat, she was on porridge, on milk, almost did not eat fruits, because it immediately developed and this is how it did not speak to someone, the skin manifestation of allergies, and respiratory. Difficulty breathing, somewhere I had to deal with her for two months, and I eliminated each of these allergies in a stage, it was difficult, then, after a few years, there was another patient, also a girl of 3-4 years old. The very difficult situation there was generally, well, almost tragic, because she had a boil in her nose, the doctor advised, just in case, to make penicillin to prevent possible complications.

"What if this pus goes to the brain?" so decided the doctor. They gave an injection of penicillin, a severe form of dobronchial asthma immediately developed, then I worked in Belgorod-Dniester and for two weeks, in the last two weeks there has been a very serious condition of the injection - in the head of the strollers, ears, there are no veins in my hands, it's all very difficult and when she came to me, and the child was just blue, this nasolabial fold is typical bluish, wheezing. There were a lot of people, I had to free people so that there was air, it wasn't even hypnosis, it was, as they said before, a conspiracy, but from this I was already in my technique, which is called psychoresonance therapy, that is, I put my hand on my chest and started whispering suggestion. About 5-7 minutes later, the attack went away - the attack that lasted two weeks, and then I say well, so that the doctor happens that the doctor is offended if someone cured.

"It happens," I say, "You know, so that I do not have conflicts with pediatricians, ask me that you are being treated there in the department." Well, the next day comes. I say, "you have already asked, everything is fine there I will not be offended and then everything is fine with me, we came in the evening took all the things and went home "I say, "and what, like that unattended, right?" it know, and the first night she slept properly at home with the first session of everything, well, in general, we conducted a course of treatment with her, the girl recovered and, in general, everything was fine. Another case of asthma treatment is already an adult, a woman that is, I want to say, there were enough cases, well, such, which I remember, maybe a bright woman about 35 years old with something, she has four small children, she sits on hormones severe form of asthma, somewhere she took four or five tablets of prdnisolone daily, but the attacks remained, maybe they decreased a little, but against this background, during the winter period, it is required three times to administer a dripper.

Hello dear viewers, residents of Odessa, Odessa region and all over the world, who watch our program on the Internet. "Healthy Talk," is on air, today we have such a long-awaited guest, psychotherapist Viktor Fedorovich Chiyanov and his grateful patient Elena Kazaryan visit us. Dear guests, you know, when we were preparing and you said what problem Elena addressed you, I immediately said that today to some extent neurosis (and I will tell our viewers, I will open the curtain that we will talk about neuroses) is almost 90% of the population, it seems to me. Life is so dynamic, we all try to have time, go to bed, instead of rest we worry for tomorrow, for all our lives, for relatives, for home, for work, for personal, for our health, it probably follows that our nervous system, our mental system - it just can not stand, it seems, and many doctors are trying to help, but, unfortunately. I know that you, Victor Fedorovich, manage to cure neurosis
Olena, let's start with you. Please tell me how the disease manifested itself, how long it all began and how you learned about Viktor Fedorovich. How did they try to treat before?
Well, because of the constant stresses, worries, anxiety, fears, my nervous system specifically started to grind out. As you say, everything is sick from nerves. They came up with this conversation. There was some discomfort in the whole body, especially in the head, so you know how you're about to turn off. You lose consciousness.
That is, you did not have the strength?
Full apathy to everyone, interest even went out. Negative thoughts that plagued day and night did not give rest. Well, the state is terrible.
Did it not manifest itself in any way outside?
Well, of course, I started losing weight, there was a massive heartbeat, the pressure surges are faint. Well, of course, the discomfort was terrible. How did I find Viktor Fedorovich? Well, thanks to your handover, I met Viktor Fedorovich. Well, just last year I didn't lose my mom twice, and this situation kind of completely drove me into a dead end. I was scared, and I was starting to take this issue seriously. Look at your ephyrs, I called Viktor Fedrovich, he listened carefully to my problem
and began treatment.
- Victor Fedorovich. please tell me, what is neurosis from your point of view, and if it is so more general to say, what other problems of the soul are probably common in your patients today?
Neurotic disorders are most common. I would highlight the neurosis of fear in the first place, or, as it is now called differently, phobic neurosis, when suddenly there is an attack of fear and a person does not know where he is going. rush around the room, look for some way out, he can't find a way out. Fear can be different, people are afraid to show up in a bunch of people. You also had this, you couldn't, yeah, you didn't feel comfortable either in the store or in the center of something...
I wanted to get out all the time. All the time, this is... -
To stay alone and lock up...
Well, yes, most of all, this is the house where such silence is.
Naturally, such a condition, if a person does not do himself, if he recklessly refers to someone, it is delayed, there can be serious some consequences, because in the social plan a person is isolated, he can throw up work, communicate with someone, there is no strength even to do it...
Well, that's what happens if you don't get help.
And in the social plane, I had a student who was afraid to go to the teacher to change his mind, he left the institute, he left for this reason, then the treatment course passed, he said, "What a fool I am." Thinking completely differently is breaking people's lives.
It's not just that. Some are tolerant, some are unlucky enough, so it's very rare for people in their primary stages to come in. Usually in the average or already quite neglected state. It's hard to work, but you can help. Then there are those, as they say, at the beginning, when a person somehow lives, life evokes him, he has neurasthenia, when there is simply no strength to do anything - not think, not to work physically, just a deep history. Not very good condition either. Nuisance neurosis is a very serious disease, when a person makes such movements  - regular, constant, very strange..
Stereotypical when he doesn't, he thinks something will happen to him bad, cause these rituals, these movements resemble rituals, and they can all heal, heal, heal over the years.
So a person can also collapse personal life, socialization...
When even people of high rank have such a problem, and ordinary medicine does not help them...
Neurosis is like any  other disease, you don't hide from it, because at work, in the family there are problems, and some people are even sensitive to what they see on the TV...

- We'll talk about what kind of method, what kind of method. Today we are not talking about pills, or about any devices, electro, MRI, CT, etc., because Viktor Fedorovich heals with his soul, as for me, and you need to turn and personally find out how everything happens. A lot of diseases on which ordinary medicine, as they say, put the cross. Viktor Fedorovich helps. Today we have Elena Kazarian, patient of Viktor Chiyanov, visiting us. Note the coordinates, please 06 735 552 48. Look, please, on Facebook Victor Chiyanov, you see the coordinates on your screens, they regularly appear on monitors, on the www.chiyanov.com website. Olena, let's go back to your story. When exactly was your first meeting and how were Viktor Fedorovich treated? Well, our treatment sessions will come to an end, I turned at the beginning of February somewhere about or at the end of January... - At the beginning of February this year, that is, we are not saying that it takes several years? - No, no,
For a few years, I kind of tried to cope myself... - How many years? With Viktor Fedorovich in almost a month? Well, I found out about Victor F'poroviche also 3 years ago. What stopped you? - Well, I don't know, this is probably a human factor, you have to hold everything, try everything... I tried everything - and medical treatment, of course, is not in our medicine, but there are even more just fears, and somewhere, maybe it was, some temporary improvement, but then everything came back again, and then those fears, well, it was just some kind of disaster.
Temporary improvement - was it from medical drugs or from..? - Yeah. Well, you drink drugs, but you drink them for a month, two, three, that would kind of slow you down, dull you. - And I wanted to say that it slows down, probably, just the nervous system and the brain with it. - It makes you feel dull, and then when you start leaving, when you stop using drugs, you leave them, then you get worse. It's just that...
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Victor Fedorovich, and why does it get worse later, if a person gets better, he takes all the medicine? - Medicines - they do not treat diseases, they hammer it inside, they overshadow it, create an impression that it would be better, but on a human soul it does not act, it acts on nervous ends, nervous cells, it blocks something there, dopamine, norepinephrine, and here at the exchange level, but this is not a state of mind, it does not change in a person.
- You know, you don't want to live without dopamine, without adrenaline, like a plant.
- Well, life does not happen without this, but they are regulating these processes somewhere, and therefore, in general, the person inside does not change, psychologically, spiritually he does not change, it is just that all these sensations are blocked at the physiological level, that is how the anesthesia is so definite. As soon as you got out of the drug, it all went out of you again, and it got worse, as she says, because time is lost. The time spent on pharmaceutical approach could be used for a more efficient method of treatment.

That is, the disease is closed, the person thinks that it is good, and in fact the disease is progressing irreplaceable, and he will not realize that the progress is coming, it is all smeared, closed, and then it has become worse. - And plus, as you say, we also cover the functions of the body, which are able to fight, yes, with something? On the other hand, there are also certain side effects, and... And could there be dependencies? - Psychological, physical can be dependence. The longer a person sits on these drugs, the more he gets in touch with them. Very not good. And then I just give physical, spiritual strength, and a person gets this physical, spiritual strength and starts using it himself and brings this bridge with consciousness, where he has some problems. He starts to regulate his own will of process, and it's just the energy of the body that flows.

A person feels more active, more life-enjoying, then drugs do not do this, because this is our spiritual composition of our spirit, and drugs threaten it. They're hunkering down, tying up, cheating. - Because those who produce these drugs, they need to make money, and today it is no secret that the billion-dollar fortune of the largest pharmaceutical companies in the world, and that's what they work for, I think. And what is the method of your treatment, and Elena will tell us how your meetings, therapy... I act spiritually, psychologically, but I also give vitality, that's vitality - that's what keeps us on Earth, it makes us active. alive, alive and not sick, right? When a person loses this life force - stresses, experiences that then go into neurosis, and neurosis is already a chronic disease, it eats a person, these forces come from a person, and they cannot be returned with drugs, they do not give strength. When I interact with the soul, the body is renewed, too, it would be happy to recover itself, but there is no strength. Once it gets that power - it starts to recover right away. And then, the more he gets it, he's not just recovering, and he's still getting tired of the stresses that are already there or that will come. There is fatigue psychological. - That is, you do not treat for a short time, and you are already preparing a person to be simply healthy?
- Just people for years, 5, 10, 20 years, sometimes come with other ailments, I ask: "What is this?" And they say that they no longer remember.

So he made another illness, and forgot about it. - Please tell me how the treatment was? - Oh, it's a unique technique, it's just not transferable. It's, you know, indescribably relaxing, growing, when you feel like your body is full of this energy in the form of hedgehogs like that, you know, nice when you're... The session doesn't look like when you go back to childhood, you remember the smell of grandma, when you see her, you can't touch, but you see, there were even sessions like that that that made my way to tears. I'm actually such an emotionally creative person. You have to try to make sure I have those emotions, which I just wanted to sob, I felt so good. But I don't know, I, I will miss Viktor Fedorovich very much. I think you don't have to say goodbye, you can sometimes communicate. - No, I already thank Viktor Fedorovich I think that he needs to open some kind of boarding house so that this is how to come for help for a week. Well, it's, I say, it's t's a unique gift that pulls you out of the clutches of this neurotic state. Do you want to live today? You came with a smile, shine... - I have a different one. First of all, it's not just me noticing, it's everyone noticing - all my loved ones, my husband, my family... Well, the changes are really only for the better. And you came, you said you were worried? - This is actually TV therapy, this is probably not one psychotherapist, this is a unique method, when you completely tear these strands of strained fears, you understand that everything, you no longer return to it. I don't know, this is some miracle worker we have in Odessa. - It's great, Victor Fedorovich, that we have you, there are three minutes of our program, I want to talk not only about mental problems, not only with them you help people to fight, what diseases do you have and what can you help? Well, starting with the most common diseases is hypertonia, vegetative dystonia, bronchial asthma, 
GI disease, obsession, enuresis in children, in addition, depressive conditions, work disorders of the kidneys, inflammatory diseases, even urinary manifestations, malfunctions of the intestinal tract, inflammatory processes of the intestine, pledge, it would seem, what attitude does it have? psychotherapy, and a person lived for 15-20 years without a normal chair. - Progressive gastroenterologists have already recognized the need for this, we have good doctors in Odessa, they have determined that neural cells are also in the intestine. It affects our entire body. - Every disease, neurodermatitis, psoriasis, hair loss is stressful, we can also eliminate it. Sometimes there are times when, at all, there was a unique case when an old woman came and said that she had the deafness of one ear from a birth, just a few days I whispered something, then I was just starting to work, there were no such developed systems of treatment yet . She came and said she started hearing  with that ear that used to be deaf, and where there was hearing loss, she started hearing perfectly. 
Because such conditions occur when, it would seem, it is impossible - oncological various diseases, gynecological, that is, in fact, the entire general profile can be treated in this way - through the nervous system, through the spiritual state of a person.
- Dear guests, I thank Victor Fedorovich for visiting our program, you know, in addition to the fact that, as Ms. Elena says, that you are such a unique miraculous person that we have in our city, and a wizard, you are still a very bright person when you say: "I myself was in shock," this is beautiful. I thank you very much for your activities, for your work, you, Elena, also, for taking this step, going to television and telling your story, be healthy. Dear viewers, let me remind you of contacts - 063 735 52 48. Be sure to contact, be happy and healthy.